Interview with Shawana T. Hudson, CPA, MSA of Thomas & Gibbs CPAs
By: Tanaya D. Jackson
Jackson: Tell me about how you became a partner at Thomas & Gibbs CPA PLLC.
Hudson: This is quite a journey. I started my career with public accounting at Ernst & Young Raleigh. This was straight out of undergrad. They actually gave me the opportunity to pursue my master’s degree while working – “so seize the day”! This was one of the things that propelled my career.
In my 2nd year at E & Y, I started a family and realized that the pace that I was doing things as a Senior would not work with my new reality. Thankfully, because of the relationships I had built with one of my managers at the time, he reached out and told me about a new firm—really new firm.. just opened their doors—and advised that they were looking for a senior and knew that I would be great. That began my journey with Thomas & Gibbs.
At the time it was a 3 partner firm. I really saw it as an opportunity to get in on the ground floor and really be part of something new. I saw it as exciting because the partners were successful minorities. The upward mobility was unlimited. I worked with the firm for 5 years. I got to the 8-year mark. We had discussions regarding partnership, but nothing had finalized at that moment. I even received an employment offer from another firm, however, I had an open and honest discussion with management and let them know of my true desire to stay at Thomas & Gibbs. After discussions, I was offered the role.
Jackson: You mentioned that you took on a position with E & Y. All in all, how many years have you been in this line of work?
Hudson: It’s hard for me to fathom. My full time in the profession will be 20 years.
Jackson: What?! You look great!
Hudson: Thank You! My oldest son is 16 and I gauge my tenure here at the firm because he was just an infant when I started at E & Y.
Jackson: What do you wish someone had told or taught you from your first day at a firm?
Hudson: I truly wish someone would have told me that you are not expected to know anything. In reality, you are in a positive where no one expects you to know anything and it is a tremendous opportunity to ask questions. When you are starting your career, there are no stupid questions. I believe that in those first two years you get a pass.
It’s very meaningful for them to share. You’re giving them an opportunity. Yes, everyone is busy but for the most part, they get more out of the conversation.
When problems arise, how does your management team (or how do you) resolve them?
One thing I have gotten to understand is to appreciate the different personalities… through self-assessment. We approach problem-solving and decision making in different ways. I like to turn things over in my mind and to consider all sides of the issue before communication. Some of the other partners may prefer to move first.
Combining these two have made for a measured approach that’s effective.
When dealing with the personnel we make sure to have a united front. If it’s a development issue or performance issue, our approach is such –Do they have everything they need to perform well? How can we assist?
Jackson: Yes, that makes the difference. I’m similar in that I also like to take time to consider all options before moving forward. It’s great that you and the other partners are so open and transparent with each other. It makes for a great working environment and relationship.
How do you motivate and reward people?
Hudson: It goes back to trying to understand what motivates people because each individual is different. We have a diverse group. Generationally and just in life. For some, certainly, they are motivated by compensation. The award is monetary. For others, it’s a matter of getting their time back to do things they love. The motivation may be if we can accomplish in a timely fashion.
For others it’s affirmation. We really appreciate what you are doing. This is why. We hope that you would continue because it helps all of us.
How do you and the management team select people to join the company?
Hudson: Attending an accredited university and having the technical skills are important, however, it also matters how you manage your time and your communication skills. How well you interact with others.
Could you describe a typical day? Also, what are your interests outside of work?
Hudson: Mondays are extremely busy. I have client meetings in the morning, meetings with staff… I also serve on the Board of Directors for the North Carolina Association of Certified Public Accountants (NCACPA) … Outside of work I enjoy Zumba, meditation, and LOVE to cook!
How do you keep up with current events in your industry?
Hudson: I make sure to exceed the average number of CPE credits for the year. If you stay at the average, you will not be at the top of the industry. This is the best way to do well.
Ms. Hudson, if you are reading this, thank you for making MY day. I was so fortunate to have met you and learn so much about leadership, entrepreneurship, and the industry!
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